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		<title>By: hakar-g</title>
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		<dc:creator>hakar-g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you touched on the important facts of the film which really makes Burton&#039;s movie stand out more. 

It was a beautiful movie and should be seen in any cinema, you can just appreciate the art of Tim Burton, the man is pure genius.

Danny Elfman&#039;s music is also a must hear, his score of Wonderland really transcends the feel from the screen through your ears. its magic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you touched on the important facts of the film which really makes Burton&#8217;s movie stand out more. </p>
<p>It was a beautiful movie and should be seen in any cinema, you can just appreciate the art of Tim Burton, the man is pure genius.</p>
<p>Danny Elfman&#8217;s music is also a must hear, his score of Wonderland really transcends the feel from the screen through your ears. its magic!</p>
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		<title>By: Jip de Jagger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jip de Jagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, i hardly ever bother with the articles on this site. I go straight to the comments, they&#039;re more fun. People take themselves and their big expensive brains WAAAAAAAAAY too seriously. Seriously. LOLZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, i hardly ever bother with the articles on this site. I go straight to the comments, they&#8217;re more fun. People take themselves and their big expensive brains WAAAAAAAAAY too seriously. Seriously. LOLZ.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS I skimmed through the review and found it to be really good - for what it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I skimmed through the review and found it to be really good &#8211; for what it is!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FFS it&#039;s a film review - take it for what it is! It seems like some readers here are expecting something that you can submit for a literary prize...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFS it&#8217;s a film review &#8211; take it for what it is! It seems like some readers here are expecting something that you can submit for a literary prize&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the piece had some interesting insights and was a colourful read - though I have to agree, it was sometimes over academic and verbose. I too am a writer and a journalist and had to learn to walk the fine line between basking in the glory of my own vocabulary and writing something that people would actually want to read. That said, I like the edginess of the article (and Mahala as a whole) and I look forward to reading more from this writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the piece had some interesting insights and was a colourful read &#8211; though I have to agree, it was sometimes over academic and verbose. I too am a writer and a journalist and had to learn to walk the fine line between basking in the glory of my own vocabulary and writing something that people would actually want to read. That said, I like the edginess of the article (and Mahala as a whole) and I look forward to reading more from this writer.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm... Roger I think you mean abhor, not abore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm&#8230; Roger I think you mean abhor, not abore</p>
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		<title>By: Rettambuli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rettambuli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the review was fluent and solid and look forward to hearing more from you hon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the review was fluent and solid and look forward to hearing more from you hon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta agree with Roger on this one, surely we shouldn&#039;t be encouraging our young writers to fabricate dumbed down promotional material, certainly not on Mahala. It is a verbose review, but the insights are sound and even entertaining. She&#039;s got potential, keep writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta agree with Roger on this one, surely we shouldn&#8217;t be encouraging our young writers to fabricate dumbed down promotional material, certainly not on Mahala. It is a verbose review, but the insights are sound and even entertaining. She&#8217;s got potential, keep writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@david - &quot;I too went to the press screening last week, told all my friends that they would probably enjoy it, but didn’t give any more away. Why? Well, because they really didn’t want me telling them more than was provided in the previews!&quot;

Well, David, if it was all in the previews, what exactly is your role?

Also, I wasn&#039;t saying that the battle sequence itself was bad (although yes it was) I&#039;m saying the inclusion of a battle sequence and the build up to reduces Lewis Carrol&#039;s tale to a substandard &quot;Chronicles If Narnia&quot; esque adaptation, this is a product of film makers having to make film for people who like their films unchallenging, and in easily digestible chunks.

The role of the critic (not the reviewer) is to translate the art into the zeitgeist. I actually abore the statement &quot;spoiler alert&quot; because quite frankly if you don&#039;t want to know anything you shouldn&#039;t have picked up the newspaper in the first place. And yes I said newspaper, this is not a new thing, Rex Reed and Pauline Kael were giving disussions on films that contained vital plot points way before the internet. A film should not stand on surprise, as that will lead it to fall apart on repeated viewings, rather the craft of film is to make us feel that surprise that anticipation vitally on every re watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@david &#8211; &#8220;I too went to the press screening last week, told all my friends that they would probably enjoy it, but didn’t give any more away. Why? Well, because they really didn’t want me telling them more than was provided in the previews!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, David, if it was all in the previews, what exactly is your role?</p>
<p>Also, I wasn&#8217;t saying that the battle sequence itself was bad (although yes it was) I&#8217;m saying the inclusion of a battle sequence and the build up to reduces Lewis Carrol&#8217;s tale to a substandard &#8220;Chronicles If Narnia&#8221; esque adaptation, this is a product of film makers having to make film for people who like their films unchallenging, and in easily digestible chunks.</p>
<p>The role of the critic (not the reviewer) is to translate the art into the zeitgeist. I actually abore the statement &#8220;spoiler alert&#8221; because quite frankly if you don&#8217;t want to know anything you shouldn&#8217;t have picked up the newspaper in the first place. And yes I said newspaper, this is not a new thing, Rex Reed and Pauline Kael were giving disussions on films that contained vital plot points way before the internet. A film should not stand on surprise, as that will lead it to fall apart on repeated viewings, rather the craft of film is to make us feel that surprise that anticipation vitally on every re watching.</p>
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		<title>By: David Steynberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steynberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger I&#039;m a journalist. I was invited by the distributor to the press screening and as far as can see my initial comment contained no hype. 
My gripe was not neccessarily with the review itself (or discussion as you put it), my problem is a write up on the film based on having seen it before its official release. That&#039;s just ethics as far as I&#039;m concerned - something that has flown out the window in the age where anyone with a keyboard can become a critic, journalist or writer.
And why is easy-to-understand writing destroying intelligent mainstream film? Not sure I understand the point you&#039;re trying to make.
I agree with the final battle sequence though. I think the death of Burton&#039;s budget at the end of filming must have meant that he didn&#039;t have more time to make the film longer and thus give a better battle sequence with more tension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger I&#8217;m a journalist. I was invited by the distributor to the press screening and as far as can see my initial comment contained no hype.<br />
My gripe was not neccessarily with the review itself (or discussion as you put it), my problem is a write up on the film based on having seen it before its official release. That&#8217;s just ethics as far as I&#8217;m concerned &#8211; something that has flown out the window in the age where anyone with a keyboard can become a critic, journalist or writer.<br />
And why is easy-to-understand writing destroying intelligent mainstream film? Not sure I understand the point you&#8217;re trying to make.<br />
I agree with the final battle sequence though. I think the death of Burton&#8217;s budget at the end of filming must have meant that he didn&#8217;t have more time to make the film longer and thus give a better battle sequence with more tension.</p>
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