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Finally Rock ‘n Roll

by Luke Mason, images by Erin Wulfsohn and Lauren Oliver / 16.03.2011

In the zoo, a nobody with a lucky job gets the chance to look at Durban from a rockstar’s perspective. My opinion on the music means very little, but I can say that in every respect, the quality of the event outshone the support, hands down.

By 5pm around a hundred or so Durbanites had parted mournfully with their 200 bucks and trickled through the doors at The Wavehouse, Gateway. The shopping centre Gestapo had quarantined the drinking facilities behind fences and burly Enforcers – 30 meters behind and to the side of the stage – and the troop of motley scenekids hung like reef fish to the security of the bars. Van Coke Cartel kicked off the evening to a crowd missing its middle. They played with energy and style to 6 loose rows of people, half of them fans, trying their best to offer what they could against the apathy. I watched a very similar thing happen when Die Heuwels Fantasties played the Red Bull Soundclash: the anti-Afrikaans residue of old Natal still strong and opaque, lying like a blanket, smothering their best efforts. The bar areas filled slowly in the background. Durban city: The toughest crowd in the world.

RAMfest Durban

Backstage the mood was quiet during the change-over, a few smiles, fewer jokes, professionals working. People arrived at the gig in twos and threes, smoked cigarettes, talked to each other. Zebra and Giraffe played in the sunset. Their performance was enjoyable, vibey, cool, and it pulled a few more away from their beers, but the spaces on the dancefloor remained, the elephant in the room. Most stood, wary to contribute a headnod to this unfamiliar music without at least a beer in hand for counter-balance.

With Die Antwoord, the crowd swelled, suddenly the thought of watching Waddy Jones gives me a starstruck feeling. Everyone backstage is told to take a step towards the wall, Ninja needs his Zef-room. They came out in a knob-waving, Yolandi-screeching fury, looking ridiculous as usual, acting sif, and swearing at their fans. The real Max Normal. His nuance remains, the Pink Floyd boxers under his onezie, the brain beneath his mullet, his flow and his beautifully painted hightops. People begin to dance and have a bit of fun. A bead of sweat forms. But there’s inevitable tension, not everyone is in on the joke. The glazed expression in his backward glances is mirrored in the illuminated faces of the crowd. Home from superstardom, back to that old feeling. A pub punk stands dead-eyed, front and centre his two middle fingers raised in defiance the entire show.

Die Antwoord, NInja, RAMfest Durban

Alkaline Trio’s manager tends to the details while they do yoga poses and talk quietly amongst themselves before their set. The class of the act is undeniable, and despite Matt Skiba having serious difficulties with his guitar, they played good music and looked like they had fun in front of a crowd well shy of a good night at Clapham Grand (excuse the oxymoron). Fans begun to move and mosh, taken by the music and infected by the proximity. Finally someone hits the top of the porous crowd, but even Marty – Durban’s rockstar – battled to stay afloat.

“What the fuck is this about?” Finally Matt Davies of Funeral for a Friend takes control of the situation, shaking his microphone at the barflies and the uninterested.
“Don’t be shy, come and try!” Enter the showman. Enter the shepherd of the lost sheep.
“For fuck sake Durban! Make some fucking noise!” For the first time that night, Durban made some noise.
“How about a circle pit? Larger than life, big as fuck? Let’s break this fucker down!” And they did, larger than life, big as fuck. With the familiar anthems and the simple on the bus: off the bus attitude of the mosh pit, the vibe lit up. The story was told in Davies’ smile, the pleasure of having his words roared back at him. It was, finally, rock n’ roll.

Maybe it was the venues fault, forcing the populous into the nakedness of appreciating the music without booze in hand, the social crutch. Maybe people just didn’t like the bands. I don’t know. Durbanites turn up in their thousands, religiously, to pay tribute to cheesy house and radio douchebags every time they press play. Is this town really as backward as that? Thank Buddha for the people in the crowd giving their energy freely, they saved the gig and made it worthwhile for our guests. Without them, it would have looked pretty grim from up there.

RAMfest Durban

RAMfest Durban

RAMfest Durban

RAMfest Durban

*Images © Erin Wulfsohn and Lauren Oliver.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    oh Durban… get out while you can.

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  2. Russell says:

    Nice one Luke, although I have to disagree on some points.

    I think the fact that the show started at 5:30 on a Wednesday was the main reason for the lack of support for Van Coke. I arrived at the show straight from work, but I’m lucky coz I work up the road from gateway. Most guys I know were still stuck in traffic at the time. I think it’s this, rather than some incorporeal anti-afrikaans vibe, that was to blame.

    As for overall attendance, it was a shocker, but again, the organisers chose not to utilize any of the existing media channels in Durban to promote it, but instead tried to do it themselves. Gateway’s organisation was dismal: No passouts, confinement to drinking areas, no ATM’s and nowhere to buy food. All this makes for a less than welcoming vibe.

    As far as the bands went, I thought the local acts shone, apart from Z&G, who were badly below par in my opinion. I’m not sure what it was like from your side, but Alkaline Trio seemed bored to be there, even if they did play a great selection of songs. Funeral for a Friend definitely put on the best show.

    But you’re right in the end about Durban apathy, it’s pathetic.

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  3. Anonymous says:

    How many people actually attended didn’t look that small?

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  4. Dizzle says:

    The sad thing is that I’d be very surprised if we get Ramfest back next year. Yeah, the apathy of Durbanites is partly to blame but the organisers fucked up big time. The one and only form of advertising for this gig, aside from the one facebook message that was sent out, was a poster stuck up in Unit 11. That was it. Nothing on the street. Nothing outside of Durban. They could’ve brought in crowds from pmb, richards bay etc. but they just assumed facebook would sell the event for them.

    And really…no money?…no food?…no leaving the venue? (the point of the armbands seem lost on me)…5.30 on a weekday? what the fuck kind of event were they trying to pull off?

    Zero effort = zero result. Fuck the Wavehouse and fuck the organisers of this leg of the tour. Show us you give a fuck about us and we’ll show you a little more support.

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  5. brandon says:

    I only arrived when then DIe Antwoord were playing and so walked into what I thought was a pretty cool event. I missed out on the ‘ohhh its so empty’ factor.

    A few points to Ramfest and any and all event organisers to note:

    -I can’t remember if the show was all ages or not, I didn’t see any young kids but that is integral to a large event like this. Especially when the drinking age becomes 21, you’re going to cut out a major part of your audience. So don’t make your event revolve around alcohol, rather around your fanbase. You want people buying tickets and filling your venue. You dont have to sell black label, you can sell Creme Soda and make a profit on that too you know. Be creative. Sweets, popcorn, hot dogs, freaking candy floss. People will buy whatever the eff is in front of them when they’re partying. Concession that if you must and take your slice off the top if you have to.

    -Personally I would have staged this event in a much smaller venue, preferably a club, I’d go so far as saying a club like BURN. Smaller, more intimate, lower costs, and much better sound.
    Second option would have been to use something like an ABSA outerfield, or Collegians and downsized on the stage and sound saving tons of cash.

    -Sound. Most important componenent of an event and always ignored. I stood in front of the speaker array and could have a conversation. I also moved to the centre of the crowd, same. This is bullshit. ROCK MUSIC SHOULD BE LOUD. Those bands rehearse louder than what they were performing that night. I was hearing more volume coming from the monitors.

    -Mixing. A lot’s due to EQ of the system and how its setup I know, but without fail every single large event of this nature seems to be setup by a techno rave head. The biggest and most important of the sound seems to be thumping subwoofer bass. ROCK IS ABOUT MIDS. Not scooped mids, not flat mids, but fucking LOUD MIDS. That system had such a scooped sound, pounding bass and great tops, but no guitars? yes I’m guitarist, but geez if that were me up on that stage I would have climbed off that stage and twisted 3 knobs and sorted that myself. Mark my words when Splashy comes round again, same story.. PUMP THE BASS, cos that means PARTY. Arrrghhhh.

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  6. dregs? no, drugs... says:

    People wanna get off their face! They want any excuse and a playground in which to do it. And then of course the playing people….those that they meet and interact with. It must be FULL. And of course they need the accessories….the bands to absorb their guilt so’s they have something to ‘talk about’ later: But trust me its the drug the whole drug and nothing but the drug. Have good drugs and you have a good joll. Alcohol is way tooo tame honey. The bands scoop the after effect and ride the wave of bullshit. The wavehouse? Never in a million years. Oh and of course the music MUST BE F++**IN LOUD. It helps keep that stupid mind-drug-talk in check. Just read the other ramfest reviews and ya’ll get the picture.

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  7. brandon says:

    In essence, yes, for most people a ‘festival’ in this country equals an opportunity to get off for your face with the music being secondary and almost unimportant. Sadly.
    Yep, look at the other Ramfest reviews and speak to your mates in the other cities.. its all about the jol there, okes getting smashed.
    That can’t be done at the Wavehouse.

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  8. Jess Rabbit says:

    I think it’s fucking rad to finally see someone actually reviewing the music on Mahala instead of hearing about how trashed the journo was. Nice one Lucky!

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  9. matt says:

    Durbanites are usually the first to complain on facebook when a international act does not come there way, and i have sympathy for them being deprived of good international music. But after reading this they can go fuck themselves. Don’t blame the organizers for lack of advertising, it was advertised months ahead on facebook. Don’t have facebook or access to the internet..??? Kill yourself ! Working on the day or the next ? Take some fucking leave pussy and stick it to the man ! Your lack of support had just affirmed to David and the rest of the other SA bands that Durban doesn’t not give a shit about bands. Most of you probably have your money saved up for the next splashy anxiously waiting to show off your new boardshorts and shark tooth around your neck.

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  10. Nile. says:

    Shit Venue. Shit Promotion. Shitty Venue restrictions.Shit Support Bands.Shit Date Mid Week come on it’s Durban If it was a better planned day there would have been 100’s of more kids.

    If I want to go watch Bands like Alkaline Trio and Funeral For A Friend i sure as hell don’t want to see Zebra and Giraffe.

    @Brandon ” Personally I would have staged this event in a much smaller venue, preferably a club, I’d go so far as saying a club like BURN. Smaller, more intimate, lower costs, and much better sound.”

    Personally id rather kill myself then see those bands at burn.
    What about Bat Center anyone Remember Most Precious Blood Tour there in 2005 and then Mad Caddies played there, It’s an awesome venue not just for the Tendy/Indy GMT.

    “but even Marty – Durban’s rockstar – battled to stay afloat”
    Christ who’s arse are you trying to kiss?

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  11. Carol Reed says:

    @Jess Rabbit aka Girlfriend of Kurt from the City Bowl Mizers who Marty “Durban’s Rockstar” is lead singer of.

    That’s right keep patting your mates on the head.

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  12. Long Tall Sally says:

    I moved from Durban to Cape town and discovered a whole new world. There were no posters here that I saw, and I don’t regularly read the newspaper or listen to the radio so I have no idea what kind of advertising there was. But it was all over fb and twitter, and guess what? Ramfest was packed, just like every other gig I’ve been to in this city.

    Every time a concert comes to Durban, you bitch. Everytime a band skips Durban, you bitch. You guys bitch and moan about everything and then jerk off to Roger Goode playing bullshit at Eighties. I’ve been there, I was there. There’s a HUGE sense of entitlement cocking up your live music scene… most people I knew wouldn’t pay more than R30 to see a concert. Make some fucking effort, people. You don’t buy tickets, you don’t buy albums, you don’t buy t-shirts. Bands won’t kiss your ass for free.

    You’ve built your scene… now deal with it.

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  13. Nile. says:

    @Long Tall Sally
    Afuckingmen!

    Only a matter of time before Splashy Fen is converted into Electro and dub step shit.

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  14. bob says:

    Oh how I love Mahala’s comment section.

    I really don’t think this can be put down to Durban apathy, those that love bands and live music, were there in full force, but when you have a gig at Gateway, on a weekday, at 5 in the afternoon, with minimal advertising, what do you expect? It’s all been said but they’re valid points.

    But I do agree with Jess, thanks for actually talking about the show and not yourself, a refreshing change.

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  15. Anonymous says:

    Durban doesn’t support their internationals and yet complain ridiculous amounts every time.
    Splashy Fen is a joke. We did get Horse the band there last year though. However, I heard (can someone confirm this for me) that Pedro was only willing to pay them R2000? thats less than local bands!
    And yet they put on the best show of the whole fest, and had the biggest crowd in that tent the whole time I was there!
    If our biggest local festival is only willing to pay 2000 for an international band, how can we expect anyone to come back or even care?
    Same with Ramfest now, cause of our shit response who knows if they will be back.
    thanks for making us proud KZN!

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  16. bob says:

    Look at you treating rumours as if they’re facts.

    Durban supports if you give them the opportunity to. Underoath and Nofx were both well supported at Gateway because they were on a weekend and Billy Talent was also well supported DURING THE WEEK because of good promotion. Promoters need to, you know, promote their shows and not act like they’re doing anyone favours by putting on a show. Yes, we’re grateful, but it’s a promoters job to promote their damn shows. Do the research, put in the work, and we’ll part with our hard earned cash and do our job of showing up. But if a small crowd attends your show, don’t blame them for everyone else not coming to the party.

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  17. Dizzle says:

    I don’t remember anyone “bitching” after the Mad Caddies gig. Not one complaint after the Blindside show…could it be because both those shows were well organised and therefore well attended leaving both the international bands and the fans happy and satisfied?

    Durbanites bitch when there is a reason to bitch.
    We bitch when organisers fail at their jobs and don’t advertise resulting in a poor attendance. Said organisers then use the poor attendance as a reason to not bring bands to Durban again.
    (and no, Matt , facebook alone is NOT a sufficient advertising method. It’s lazy).

    We also bitch when arrive at a music festival and there is nothing to eat, there are no atm’s and we are confined to a cage when all we want to do is sip on a beer while watching a band.

    We don’t ask for much, just that we get as much effort put into making us stoked as Cape Town and Joburg get.

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  18. Anonymous says:

    To promoters touring internationals Durban is considered a risk. I dont think anyone appreciates the costs involved in these tours. If touring Durban can end up costing you money, no one is excited.
    If Durban wants to be treated the same as JHB and CT then they must support the same and justify their market. the honest truth is: they dont.

    Your hard earned cash is not any more relevant than the person investing and organising the tour. In fact, they’re sinking a lot more than your cover charge.

    The argument about wavehouse is a poor one, since it’s not like people decided not to go because of those factors. That would only have been noticed once people already got there.
    I do agree that it’s pretty shit not to be able to get something to eat, but the no alcohol zone is very common in SA concerts by now, and isn’t excuse enough to justify a lack of attendance.

    the bands you did mention who had great shows were on a smaller underground level, and underground fans are usually loyal fans, so sure, the obscure punk and ska bands who played at burn had great shows, I am sure, but the scale is a bit different.

    Ramfest is traditionally considered the most professionally run and organised festival in the country. Should we blame another outside factor or look at the common denominator?

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  19. Jess Rabbit says:

    @ Carol Reed
    By the sounds of things I must have offended you personally at some point? Sorry dude. Let me buy you a beer sometime then we can be friends too. And I promise to pat you on the head like the rest of ’em.

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  20. Anonymous says:

    also, to extend the gig to the weekend instead of the wednesday would mean adding on the additional expenses of transport, accomodation, food and entertainment for 2 international bands and their aides (there were quite a number) for at least another week and a half.
    Which would have probably cost more than they made at Durban through the door anyway.

    Tours in SA (and Durban specifically) present an opportunity. To break out of your mould and your norm and not expect it to be at your best personal convenience. If thats the case the depth of your loyalty and support is shallow.

    And even looking at local acts who tour Durban: it’s ALWAYS hit or miss, and mostly miss. JHB bands only humour you folk cause it’s a managable distance to do over a weekend, and being in bands they feel obliged to tour, and Durban is the most logical and easily accessed option. If JHB were located further awayk, no one would ever tour. And most of those JHB bands touring down are doing it at their own expenses.

    When a band tours a city, covering their own petrol and accomodation expenses, and walks away with R800 for the whole tour with which to cover the expenses of 5 or 6 people… well, they’re basically doing YOU the favour.

    It’s YOUR scene, no the promoters, not the venues, not the international bands, not the alcohol restrictions and the wednesday gigs.

    You think bands aren’t hungry for supportive locations to tour too? I promise, if Durban was considered a good financial risk, everyone would be there all the time.

    But instead bands tour there (big name bands) and play to 30 apathetic scene kids who are just projecting judgement stemmed from your barefoot punk and hardcore scenes that preach a lot but practice little.

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  21. T says:

    WOW. This blog gets ‘better and better’ with narrow minded, one sided articles. Luckily I only stop by when there’s something worth laughing at.

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  22. Russell says:

    It’s not as if Joburg is the land of milk and honey for touring bands either. We’ve made the mission from Durban before, and have had some of our shittest shows. Playing to literally 5 people, getting paid jack shit etc etc, all because of kak organisation and kak venues. We’ve also had some of our best there, as well as in Durban.

    Durban’s loyal music community is a small one (those so-called barefoot punk and hardcore kids), and every single one of those people were there for Ramfest. The key is to get the rest of the Roger Goode, Origin cats to come to shows, and that only comes with a better understanding of the market here. If the show had been at the BAT Centre, it would’ve been massive. Guaranteed.

    It’s not the Durban scene that’s the problem. They are loyal. But the scene is small. You need to get into other markets here, and that’s where the challenge lies. If you can crack it though, there’s a fuck load of potential.

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  23. Luke says:

    Everybody’s talking, nobody’s dancing.
    I love Durban and wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.
    I’m not particularly fond of any of the bands that played, but music is music, it’s to be enjoyed.
    Complain all you want about organisers and venues and not being able to do enough drugs.
    My opinion, your opinion, none of it means anything.
    Support something larger than your ego.

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  24. bob says:

    Well said Russell.

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  25. Carol Reed says:

    Wow T. What a narrow minded, one sided comment.

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  26. Arkt1kF0x says:

    I believe that Wavehouse for one was not the best choice in the matter. Indoors can work but it has to be the right place. LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION! Lords and Legends in Toti is big enough for a one day fest but then again there is the noise restrictions. It’s hard to find the right venue. BUT they are out there.

    Agreed! Promoting the event is so bloody necessary, and anybody who has been in this industry can tell you that without out it you WILL NOT pull in the crowds you hoped to have had. Rule for facebook is expect only 10% of your confirmations as really rocking up!

    If you are going to extend your festival to other cities but are not familiar with the “market” research is pretty necessary as well as finding the right people to market on your behalf. Get your bands to help promote the event. It’s all good and well being paid to perform at the festival but what’s the point if there is nobody there to support the act. Every artist/band/performer should be prepared to put in their fair share in promoting something that they are a part of. How is anybody going to keep the community vibe going if nobody is prepared to give off their high horses and actually contribute to their OWN VIBE let alone the organizers vibe! So yes, be pissed off with the organizers but I extend it to the musicians out there who think that they are too cool for school to continue putting in the work too. I guess that’s what happens when you think you have made it and I believe it winds up being their greatest downfall. You will feel it when you are forgotten!

    I do think that if the Metal4Africa stage was included in the fest that you would be guaranteed more fans moving through doors. Ramfest was originally about the alternative edge and not so much about the commercial vibe so let’s not kill the seed that gave us Ramfest to start off with.

    Big Ups to the organizers of Ramfest, Durban was lucky enough to even have you bring the fest there (especially considering that this has been a Cape Town event for the last 5 years now). As with any new project there will always be glitches that need tweaking but you still brought on an awesome pArtAy!! IT WILL ONLY GET BETTER NEXT YEAR!! BRING ON THE RAMFEST!!!!!

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  27. Anonymous says:

    I’m amused that some KZN scene kids are trying to tell Dawid Fourie, who basically destroys everyone else in the SA music industry when it comes to professional organisation, how to put on a show.
    He also manages to top this industry without being a dick.

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  28. brandon says:

    I only suggested BURN based on the numbers I saw on Wednesday night.
    It was good enough for Blindside, Haste the Day and countless other local bands who have had amazing shows there. BAT Centre could have worked too but I think perhaps it might have been too big for the number of tickets sold. Also the BAT centre has notoriously difficult people to work wiith the last time I was involved. Maybe things have changed with GMT proving a success there and they’ve seen dollars?
    Im not the biggest Burn fan, I’ve been there once in the last 6 months, but the people do it for the love of the same music as your event. The people who run BAT Centre, Wavehouse, whatever are businessmen. Also important, but if your want your event to be a business venture that’s where you go. Really not intended to be a BURN venue tirade at all, so perhaps just ignore this comment now for the sake of the rest of this thread.

    Another thing missing was LOCAL DURBAN support band(s) something CT and JHB had. So I guess we could be mean and say “WHY SHOULD DURBAN SUPPORT RAMFEST IF RAMFEST DOESN”T SUPPORT DURBAN?”
    But no, we dont need to.. Cos we really dont need to see one of our new up and comings embarass themselves on that stage.
    Again, personally, I wouldn’t have put any local bands on that lineup as it was strong enough to pull a good crowd and right now there are very few (2?) Durban professional touring standard bands, ie bands that tour nationally regularly, promote hard, and play harder.

    One upside to using more local bands though would be a reduction in costs. Less crew and bands to fly around and accomodate. Lower fees (cos we all know the maximum a Durban band gets paid is R3k per gig). Again, this is the promoters choice to weigh up.

    I dont think Wednesday 5pm was an issue. I’d like to go to an event like that every single night. Why restrict it to weekends? Does Durban only party on Friday and Saturday all of a sudden? Good Music Tuesdays , Phuza Thursday, and there’s probably a Wild Wednesday somewhere. All generating late night/early morning mid week raucosness.

    A side note:
    I dont remember a single Durban person complaining about Ramfest DBN in any way. The people I was with and saw had a jol. The only gripes came from friends in the bands that were on stage that night and hearing rumours of ‘ramfest never coming to Durban again’.

    There was quite a good crowd I thought, just would have been a better vibe in a smaller venue. Wavehouse is way too big for anyone other than the Parlotones or Prime Circle.

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  29. Russell says:

    It wasn’t so much the Wednesday thing that was the problem. More the 5pm thing. GMT and the rest all get going much later. It could’ve started later, but this was because of the venue.

    No one’s saying Dawid Fourie can’t organise a show. But when it comes to organising a show in another city, some understanding of the city is required. I met him at the wavehouse and he’s a genuine dude who was just as bummed as everyone else about the way wavehouse was running things.

    The GMT guys, for instance, pull massive crowds whenever they host an event. They understand how Durban works. If they went to Jhb or CT they might fail miserably.

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  30. Peter says:

    Durban Sucks I hate this place.

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  31. Anonymous says:

    The show started at 17h00. Anti-Afrikaans for Van Coke Kartel? More like anti-unemployment.

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  32. boitch2k says:

    Carol Reed, you are such a tool.

    Yuss-is…

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  33. ShlongDong says:

    @ Arkt1kF0x

    Yeah no, Lords and Legends in Toti would never work for a day long festival (although it would make me very happy to hear of a day long alternative fest taking place in Amanzimtexas), sorry dude. Way too many conservative OH MY GOD THERE’S SCREAMING THEY MUST BE FUCKING SATANISTS! types crawling around Hutchison Park. The Rising End show at the Toti Rugby Club a few years ago in point.

    Forgive me if I’m wrong, but was this the first year Ramfest had an event in Durban? Minus all the other kak with regards to the venue etc., maybe the promoters overplayed their hand thinking everyone in Durban would know what Ramfest is? I mean everyone in Cape Town knows the last weekend of February or the first weekend of March is Ramfest, and that’s because it’s been going here for 5 years and has built up a support base. It’s the same with everyone in Pretoria knowing Oppikoppi is the first weekend of August or people in KZN knowing Splashy is near Easter and what those festivals are about. Ramfest isn’t as nationally known as those two right now, and like a lot of people said, maybe a bit more advertising instead of facebook and word of mouth would’ve been required to get more support or whatever. Or maybe I’m just talking a load of shit, that’s just my Durbanite in Cape Town five cents.

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  34. Andy says:

    anonymouse surely you mean anti-employment… ?

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  35. brandon says:

    The early start was necessary for the bands to finish before the legal ‘noise making’ curfew in a residential area. As far as I know it’s 10pm, so finishing at 10.30pm (on time as advertised I might add!) was pretty damn good.
    Maybe on a weekend that finish time could have been pushed, but we’re a stop on a tour and there are only so many weekends a week.

    Only time Wavehouse has really worked as a big jol is Uprisings and that was a fest starting early on a Saturday and going late. Im sure if Ramfest ran the same way (like in JHB on a Saturday, all day, more bands) it would have been a bit different. Being the first time in DBN, it was a good way to test the water here with a slimmed down version of the fest.

    I thought it did well.

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  36. Russell says:

    Ye, the noise curfew is the point I’m making. A different venue would have solved that problem.

    I also agree that it wasn’t a complete disaster. Most of the people I know who went had a good time. Dudes were stoked.

    I really do think (if the organisers wanna give Durban another bash) is that they get in touch with the local channels, and figure out what draws a crowd in Durban.

    As an example, when Have Heart and Shipwreck AD toured here from the states, the organisers put the Durban show in the hands of dudes from a Durban band. The Durban show was easily one of the best: awesome turnout, awesome vibe. Get some knowledgeable Durban cat consulting on the next one, and it’s sure to be a banger.

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  37. no photo? says:

    was a rad gig bar barely bar.no camera rule. and too much dick thanks francois and waddy! Funeral were so amazing to watch live I couldnt stop grinning!Thanks Daw/vid!!!soo many peops had disks in their cars to sign and could:gateway you corporate whore.
    Btw Carol You have serious hate.actually Jess is a witty intelligent strong woman who probably doesnt care if you see her as just a girlfriend….because to people whos heads she pats or doesnt know she is more then that….fok you BEETCH!

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  38. Anonymous says:

    Not really a problem with advertising. I saw posters all around the city and those wanting music know all about Ramfest. There were just uber kak bands on offer for Durban tastes I would imagine. I personally wasn’t going to waste my time and money. I think the other Ramfest cities had some better acts. Wavehouse is also a shitty week night venue. A weekend sun blazing pool splashing day would be more in order. Our local Uprising music fest died a sad death but the last Wavehouse installment was awesome-ness. Same formula with a few good international acts and you will have a party on your hands.

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  39. Nile. says:

    @ no photo? It’s clear you like a good head patting.
    What’s with all the ass kissing?

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  40. Anonymous says:

    Ramfest operates on a budget of MILLIONS.
    Have heart / Shipwreck / Blindside / Mad Caddies etc operated on a budget a very small fraction of that, which is why it’s easier to ‘hand it over to local bands’.
    But when spending MILLIONS, do you really expect the organisers to get hold of some underground Durban band (who, apparently, has never been paid more then 3k for a gig) to put things together?

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  41. james says:

    Dirtbin. Avoid.

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  42. Even Thugs Need Hugs says:

    ””’on the bus/off the bus,,,,

    Comes up more often, that.

    What happen, scenester muppets read Kesey at last?

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  43. the twat says:

    Who’s this carol reid bint and whats her pluck?

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  44. Russell says:

    I’m not suggesting they hand it over. Just consult. Dude’s in Durban know what works for Durban, i.e. which venues, which night of the week, etc.

    Also, 3k for a gig? Damn, I wish we’d ever been paid that, in any city…

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  45. Sarah Dee says:

    Gateway was a fuck up of a venue.

    Who wants to go to a gig in a fucking MALL? Jesus. At the same time as the Umhlanga mommies are buying their Woolies roast chicken nogal? Since I am one of those apathetic Durban kids who opted not to go – I’ll justify my existence as one of those gaps in the crowd, maybe give you all an insight into why there were so many of us.

    It’s not just about the music. Gigs pack out not because everyone in the audience is a die hard fan, or they feel like they have some conscious obligation to sustain a viable scene. They pack out because everyone feels like they’ll be missing out on something if they don’t go. It’s about the party. It’s about the love. It’s about the gathering of people with two singular objectives, to hear rad music and/or to have a jol.

    It’s not about the fucking synchronised fountains, the KFC outlets and the Enforce security guards. When its Goldfish over the Christmas holidays, when Umhlanga is packed with guidos who feel safer in the mall than they did in their mothers’ womb, yeah sure, it can work as a venue. This gig? Not a fuck.

    The organisers managed to hook in the kids who were dead set on hearing good music, the true fans, but totally failed to attract people the other objective in mind.

    There are plenty of other cool places to stage such an event in Durban. Perhaps not that many that are as ready-made and kitted out as the Wavehouse, but with even a fraction of the logistical effort that went into the events in the other cities, it could have been a really rad, really well-attended little fest.

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  46. Gerard says:

    I can’t understand how people from other cities feel the need to come here and have their say… what the fuck do they care what happens here period, i went and looked at the other cities reviews, no one from Durban went there and made a point to pass judgment on jhb or cpt, WTF!

    Durbanites know what’s good for Durban, so you random fucktards who feel they have the authority and insight to tell us what we’re doing wrong can suck a dick!! You pretentious cunts, jhb bands who consider coming to Durban a favor can fucking stay at home, we don’t need them.

    Gateway Wavehouse is a shit venue, I’ve been saying it for years, uprising was its only saving grace, apathetic bands call for apathetic fans… Alkaline Trio were fucking boring!
    Why shouldn’t we expect to see some Durban bands on the stage, its our fucking city for christ sake.

    who the fuck is Carol??? no really who the fuck is she, and why is she commenting? no valid point made, just snippy little jabs at T. and Jess… says more about you sugar tits…

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  47. Carol Reed says:

    Gerad is the perfect example of a Durbanite.

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  48. Tfullstop says:

    Will the real T please stand up. To all those who think that’s me commenting, tis not. T. (The first)

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  49. Anonymous says:

    Carol Reed = Creepy Steve.

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  50. durban says:

    that makes sense, creepy steve is an idiot

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  51. Band Guy says:

    I thought the show was awesome! Mid-week gigs are always less-attended than weekend shows, but who cares if it’s a once in a lifetime chance to see one of your favourite bands.

    Too many peeps complaining about drinking in a cage – at least they make it right next to the stage so you can see every bit of the concert. No other ‘big event’ shows have that.

    Less whine – more support.

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  52. Chris says:

    Carol is Steve? Really? Creepy…

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  53. Roger Young says:

    I don’t think Creepy would hide behind a fake name.

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