Comments on: Decapitate a Hater http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: beatmeboy http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-80733 beatmeboy Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:29:48 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-80733 die antwoord: i like em a bit. am glad they are making South Africa proud. it's also unfortunately true that it often takes some one a bit more middle class and educated to bring something wonderful to the world. because they know how to talk the talk. and how to re-sell an idea in a package other people with money can relate to. and, let's not criticise talent. ninja knows what he's doing, yolandi does to. but although it's absolutely ok to point out that 50 cent perhaps isn't as trailer park as he pretends, it's seen as sour grapes to point it out in their case. nobody hails fiddy as a 'master of subtle parody'. he's simply saying what people want to hear to sell records. but when a band that is a media darling is less 'genuine', some weird mythology springs up around it. i don't know why it should be such a big deal: they just pretend to be poorer and more disadvantaged (such as styling their clip to look like the place they hang day to day is a white trash style backyard with bins, broken cars and toothless men) to make themselves look tougher and better. cool. that's honest. and it has been that way in popular culture for ever. posing and posturing is sexy and fun, let's admit it. if we were all authentic 24/7 we would all be fucking boring and damaged. but let's not mythologise it too much. david bowie did it and he started, apparently, a bit of a style revolution, but he never said 'oh i have ALWAYS been like this, this is 100% genuine, this is who i am, i grew up with gypsies, i lived in asia, i travelled the world, this is not a costume it's my normal way of life' or some such nonsense! he just did a good job, took fuckloads of drugs, and people liked it. ps. him sleeping with men may or may not have been a publicity stunt. die antwoord: i like em a bit. am glad they are making South Africa proud. it’s also unfortunately true that it often takes some one a bit more middle class and educated to bring something wonderful to the world. because they know how to talk the talk. and how to re-sell an idea in a package other people with money can relate to.

and, let’s not criticise talent. ninja knows what he’s doing, yolandi does to. but although it’s absolutely ok to point out that 50 cent perhaps isn’t as trailer park as he pretends, it’s seen as sour grapes to point it out in their case. nobody hails fiddy as a ‘master of subtle parody’. he’s simply saying what people want to hear to sell records.

but when a band that is a media darling is less ‘genuine’, some weird mythology springs up around it. i don’t know why it should be such a big deal: they just pretend to be poorer and more disadvantaged (such as styling their clip to look like the place they hang day to day is a white trash style backyard with bins, broken cars and toothless men) to make themselves look tougher and better. cool. that’s honest.

and it has been that way in popular culture for ever. posing and posturing is sexy and fun, let’s admit it. if we were all authentic 24/7 we would all be fucking boring and damaged. but let’s not mythologise it too much.

david bowie did it and he started, apparently, a bit of a style revolution, but he never said ‘oh i have ALWAYS been like this, this is 100% genuine, this is who i am, i grew up with gypsies, i lived in asia, i travelled the world, this is not a costume it’s my normal way of life’ or some such nonsense! he just did a good job, took fuckloads of drugs, and people liked it. ps. him sleeping with men may or may not have been a publicity stunt.

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]]> By: Kremlin http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-13310 Kremlin Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:38:01 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-13310 Totally agree with the writer, let's give DA a chance here in the overseas. It brings lots of positive vibes from the SA worldwide. Puts SA on the map again in a good way, so that can't be bad right? Maybe cool for other fans by the way: http://www.dieantwoordzeflings.com Totally agree with the writer, let’s give DA a chance here in the overseas. It brings lots of positive vibes from the SA worldwide. Puts SA on the map again in a good way, so that can’t be bad right? Maybe cool for other fans by the way: http://www.dieantwoordzeflings.com

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]]> By: Abraham Esau http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10787 Abraham Esau Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:57:15 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10787 So when you ask the obvious questions about Die Antwoord you're a hater? http://africasacountry.com/2010/02/19/is-die-antwoord-blackface/ So when you ask the obvious questions about Die Antwoord you’re a hater?

http://africasacountry.com/2010/02/19/is-die-antwoord-blackface/

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]]> By: tara http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10493 tara Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:22:57 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10493 saul williams just tweeted Die anwoord saul williams just tweeted Die anwoord

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]]> By: lornabee http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10461 lornabee Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:41:12 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10461 Tara you are wrong. I speak English, Afrikaans Zulu and Xosa. I'm a typical South African and I appreciate Mbanga music as much as I appreciate Die Antwoord . I can groove with all of them. You say that Afrikaans and Zulu can't be spoken by most S Africans - but you are wrong baby - think again. How many Zulu speakers are there in the country? A shit load more than English speakers that's for sure. And how many Afrikaaners? Also. more than the English speakers. You should spend some time in Limpopo province where I just spent a few months making a movie. I even got to love Kurt Darren - and that's saying something. lets face it ,South Africa has a rich mother load of very different music - and we can all appreciate it - if you speak the lingo. Lekker bly, hamba gahle, en moenie fokken worry nie. Tara you are wrong. I speak English, Afrikaans Zulu and Xosa. I’m a typical South African and I appreciate Mbanga music as much as I appreciate Die Antwoord . I can groove with all of them. You say that Afrikaans and Zulu can’t be spoken by most S Africans – but you are wrong baby – think again. How many Zulu speakers are there in the country? A shit load more than English speakers that’s for sure. And how many Afrikaaners? Also. more than the English speakers. You should spend some time in Limpopo province where I just spent a few months making a movie. I even got to love Kurt Darren – and that’s saying something. lets face it ,South Africa has a rich mother load of very different music – and we can all appreciate it – if you speak the lingo. Lekker bly, hamba gahle, en moenie fokken worry nie.

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]]> By: Petra Mason http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10325 Petra Mason Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:16:45 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10325 Afri-can! Afri-can!

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]]> By: tara http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10304 tara Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:37:56 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10304 Afrikaans and Zulu cant be spoken by many South Africans. So much SA music is world class, but the audience doesnt care. or know. or exist as yet. We dont know these languages, because we havent wanted to and we dont hear our music because we dont believe in it. Apartheid (apart-hood) has its streams and although the current has changed, those streams are still drunk from. We like "Amercan culture" because we see it from afar. It shouldnt have to be this way, but hopefully having the world see us from afar and like our culture will endorse it for us, and we will realise just how classy we can be. Afri-can. get with it. now. Afrikaans and Zulu cant be spoken by many South Africans.
So much SA music is world class, but the audience doesnt care. or know. or exist as yet.
We dont know these languages, because we havent wanted to and we dont hear our music because we dont believe in it.
Apartheid (apart-hood) has its streams and although the current has changed, those streams are still drunk from.

We like “Amercan culture” because we see it from afar. It shouldnt have to be this way, but hopefully having the world see us from afar and like our culture will endorse it for us, and we will realise just how classy we can be.
Afri-can. get with it. now.

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]]> By: Petra Mason http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10174 Petra Mason Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:05:05 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10174 "Yes we can". it's okay to watch it all unfold with the mute button on and a smile on your dial. : - ) “Yes we can”. it’s okay to watch it all unfold with the mute button on and a smile on your dial. : – )

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]]> By: BM. http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10132 BM. Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:39:06 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10132 can we be happy for them and still think their output sucks ass? is that ok? can we be happy for them and still think their output sucks ass? is that ok?

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]]> By: uh huh! http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/decapitate-a-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-10065 uh huh! Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:50:31 +0000 http://www.mahala.co.za/?p=4984#comment-10065 couldn't agree more... # Neuroprancer says: I say, give DA a chance. And lets hope that they’ll be one of many cultural phenomenons hailing from SA. At least its not something born out of a baby boomer’s SMS-vote on American Idol. # couldn’t agree more… #

Neuroprancer says:

I say, give DA a chance. And lets hope that they’ll be one of many cultural phenomenons hailing from SA. At least its not something born out of a baby boomer’s SMS-vote on American Idol.
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