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		<title>By: Finn</title>
		<link>http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/are-we-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-29326</link>
		<dc:creator>Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roquefort...One day the truth will find your prostate. And the truth is definitely a manly bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roquefort&#8230;One day the truth will find your prostate. And the truth is definitely a manly bear.</p>
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		<title>By: roquefort hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/are-we-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-29013</link>
		<dc:creator>roquefort hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finn - go fuck yourself, and in doing so you can give rise to a third category of carnal practitioner - the autosexual. Then ponder the collective gaze of other unsatisfied, inadequate morons such as yourself upon your pigeonholed identity, together with their inane speculation that you may secretly fall into some other &#039;category&#039;. Not a very appealing thought, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finn &#8211; go fuck yourself, and in doing so you can give rise to a third category of carnal practitioner &#8211; the autosexual. Then ponder the collective gaze of other unsatisfied, inadequate morons such as yourself upon your pigeonholed identity, together with their inane speculation that you may secretly fall into some other &#8216;category&#8217;. Not a very appealing thought, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/are-we-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-28863</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Daniel! But I still think the gay inhabitants of Cape Town should also redecorate “the Bronx”. I wonder what’s keeping them from doing so, since it was the grossest place I’ve been in Cape Town (except for some bars far out in the Cape flats).. Maybe it’s because they feel this is the place to leave the image of being decent, biological cookie baking, monogamous and pretty. Maybe this is the place were all gay people in Cape Town elude in the desired intoxicated lascivious status were no condoms can be found because they are so far gone they aren’t even able to remember how they got at this godforsaken situation in the first place (:-]) . Strangely they all seem to like it the way it is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Daniel! But I still think the gay inhabitants of Cape Town should also redecorate “the Bronx”. I wonder what’s keeping them from doing so, since it was the grossest place I’ve been in Cape Town (except for some bars far out in the Cape flats).. Maybe it’s because they feel this is the place to leave the image of being decent, biological cookie baking, monogamous and pretty. Maybe this is the place were all gay people in Cape Town elude in the desired intoxicated lascivious status were no condoms can be found because they are so far gone they aren’t even able to remember how they got at this godforsaken situation in the first place (:-]) . Strangely they all seem to like it the way it is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/are-we-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-28821</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now i am superficial just because i live in De Waterkant.... wearing Armani does not make one superficial ! 
I give generously to the car guards.
I have always tipped the bar men and waiters well especially if they cute!
I spend thousands upon thousands in the shops from De Waterkant to the Marais via Barrydale and Parys.
And have done all of this while being Gay - but without needing to wear the T Shirt. I do feel that labels, both on clothing and as regards ones sexuality, are dated and done especially in the South African context.
We are who we are - that is the beauty of being South African in 2010, lets hope however that people who sleep with people of the same sex continue to discover areas that need attention and allow for artistic expression as the world will be a much duller place without them....

now the question is - do i even send this reply...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now i am superficial just because i live in De Waterkant&#8230;. wearing Armani does not make one superficial !<br />
I give generously to the car guards.<br />
I have always tipped the bar men and waiters well especially if they cute!<br />
I spend thousands upon thousands in the shops from De Waterkant to the Marais via Barrydale and Parys.<br />
And have done all of this while being Gay &#8211; but without needing to wear the T Shirt. I do feel that labels, both on clothing and as regards ones sexuality, are dated and done especially in the South African context.<br />
We are who we are &#8211; that is the beauty of being South African in 2010, lets hope however that people who sleep with people of the same sex continue to discover areas that need attention and allow for artistic expression as the world will be a much duller place without them&#8230;.</p>
<p>now the question is &#8211; do i even send this reply&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Finn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roquefort...&#039;pretty quiet and private&#039;...you a closet homosexual by any chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roquefort&#8230;&#8217;pretty quiet and private&#8217;&#8230;you a closet homosexual by any chance?</p>
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		<title>By: The JZA</title>
		<link>http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/are-we-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-28636</link>
		<dc:creator>The JZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Brandon. I can&#039;t bring myself to write horrible things about gay people, so I decided to pick on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Brandon. I can&#8217;t bring myself to write horrible things about gay people, so I decided to pick on you.</p>
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		<title>By: roquefort hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>roquefort hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Roquefort, not Jesus Roquefort thank you very much.

Firstly, opening a paragraph with a &quot;rumour has it&quot; qualifier is a rather weak escape clause from what follows. Your author falls prey to the tiresome assumption that because gays are visible participants in the hip rejuvination of precinct that it is this gay-ness which is the primary social force behind these changes. That reeks of weak convenience - for your average hetero onlooker surveying the collective behavior of these new arrivals, the gesticulations of a handful of more open and stereotypically demonstrative gay men would be all the more noticeable and eyebrow-raising. But do a survey across the board of the people who move into and shape these neighbourhoods and I think you&#039;ll find that most of them are just as conventional as the rest of us. You&#039;ll probably even find that many of those who do indulge in quintessentially homosexual practices are pretty quiet and private about it too and that many onlookers would never guess that they fell into that category.

We need a new concept of &quot;post-gay&quot; about as badly as we need to worship the fruits of post-modernism. Relax your mind and your abs will follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Roquefort, not Jesus Roquefort thank you very much.</p>
<p>Firstly, opening a paragraph with a &#8220;rumour has it&#8221; qualifier is a rather weak escape clause from what follows. Your author falls prey to the tiresome assumption that because gays are visible participants in the hip rejuvination of precinct that it is this gay-ness which is the primary social force behind these changes. That reeks of weak convenience &#8211; for your average hetero onlooker surveying the collective behavior of these new arrivals, the gesticulations of a handful of more open and stereotypically demonstrative gay men would be all the more noticeable and eyebrow-raising. But do a survey across the board of the people who move into and shape these neighbourhoods and I think you&#8217;ll find that most of them are just as conventional as the rest of us. You&#8217;ll probably even find that many of those who do indulge in quintessentially homosexual practices are pretty quiet and private about it too and that many onlookers would never guess that they fell into that category.</p>
<p>We need a new concept of &#8220;post-gay&#8221; about as badly as we need to worship the fruits of post-modernism. Relax your mind and your abs will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: brandon edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandon edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re pushing it JZA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re pushing it JZA</p>
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		<title>By: The JZA</title>
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		<dc:creator>The JZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Brandon Edmonds write this? It&#039;s so gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Brandon Edmonds write this? It&#8217;s so gay.</p>
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		<title>By: reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty, pretty, pretty prose - but what does it say? This is not about the &#039;gays&#039; this is about a small cross-section of wealthy, largely white urbanites for whom gay is another manifestation of their crass consumerism. 

De Waterkant was never undesirable. Ask the people who were forcibly removed before the Slave Quarter became the gentrified as the Cape Quarter. Green money/Pink money  - can we escape the fact that there is a mix of blood money? These pretty people (with some exception) have little interest or imagination in the fact that lesbians are murdered in townships. Gay is not bought - it is fought.

An interesting starting point might have been to ask the question &#039;are we the only gays?&#039;. Thats the question the superficial set need to ask themselves if they are to be vaguely relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty, pretty, pretty prose &#8211; but what does it say? This is not about the &#8216;gays&#8217; this is about a small cross-section of wealthy, largely white urbanites for whom gay is another manifestation of their crass consumerism. </p>
<p>De Waterkant was never undesirable. Ask the people who were forcibly removed before the Slave Quarter became the gentrified as the Cape Quarter. Green money/Pink money  &#8211; can we escape the fact that there is a mix of blood money? These pretty people (with some exception) have little interest or imagination in the fact that lesbians are murdered in townships. Gay is not bought &#8211; it is fought.</p>
<p>An interesting starting point might have been to ask the question &#8216;are we the only gays?&#8217;. Thats the question the superficial set need to ask themselves if they are to be vaguely relevant.</p>
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